Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

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Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby Rich! » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:08 pm

Pretty much I may have come up with a way to allow a player who uses the Hide Background mod to play a Custom Simfile without using the mod itself and thus risk having DQ Scores.

Take note before I begin that I have tested this on OpenITG and it works. I am guessing as well that this will work on R23 as well but take note this has not been tested on a R23 Machine/Setup yet. This trick won't work on R21 due to the background metrics being broken and shit on R21 and as well this won't work with Songs on USB Sticks for reasons you should know at this point. The simfiles with this "trick" needed to be hacked on. As well because of "cache" reasons, any simfile that was on your machine that has this thing added should be recache and rehacked. And of course I'm not responsibility if you melt your machine if you do something wrong, use at your own risk, etc, etc.....moving on.

The Trick

Step 1: Make a 640 X 480 image (I used MS Paint on Win7 myself)

Step 2: Fill the image with a solid color (I'm guessing most will use Black)

Step 3: Save it as a PNG format and name is Black

Step 4: Copy the image on to the simfile folder of your choice, After the copy, there should be your background and banner image if any, sm file, music file and this new PNG image file in the folder now.

Step 5: Under your Sm File, replace your #BGChanges with what's on the picture
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Step 6: Install on to your machine, now you can play the custom song and it should look like this (background wise)
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And you don't have to worry about the DQ anymore. Take note however this can take a long time if you are doing many custom songs so only do this if you REALLY can't stand the BG Videos for any reason and have the time to do this.
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Re: Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby Exrave » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:23 pm

finding a way to make cheating non-dq you eh. nice. bg vids are part of the game. there's a reason that mod dq's you.

but hey, not trying to rag on your "trick". so, thanks for posting that for whoever wants to take advantage of it. I'm not meaning to shit up the thread or anything.
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Re: Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby NRC.EmoDan » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:23 pm

JD I agree and disagree with you on this

I agree that anything that disqualify's you is considered cheating, and finding a workaround is wrong IMO.

However, the only reason why I disagree is you see people like Adrian, and various other really good players use hide background, and don't really consider it to be cheating when they get rediculous scores. Which makes me believe that if the elite players of this game do it and claim those scores, then really it should be a big deal.

I mean, look at r21, it screwed with the videos and made it not play alot of the times, and no one would call that cheating. But I dont really know, I think that if your willing to spend the time doing this all the power to you, but I wont lol.

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Re: Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby Exrave » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:39 pm

NRC.EmoDan wrote:However, the only reason why I disagree is you see people like Adrian, and various other really good players use hide background, and don't really consider it to be cheating when they get rediculous scores. Which makes me believe that if the elite players of this game do it and claim those scores, then really it should be a big deal.


you basically just said "the top tier players don't care, so therefore it MUST be okay now!". if we were to replace Hide BG with Cmods, lets say Flash quadded Energizer on a cmod and doesn't care and counts it as a quad. does that mean that now its okay to use it just cuz someone high up as Flash got a "ridiculous score" using a dq mod?

that's basically your logic there and I'm sorry, that just makes no sense.

again, not ripping apart Rich's cheater-mod-bypass method. just giving my two cents.
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Re: Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby black_paladin » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:24 am

This is gonna turn into another Mirror debate =\
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Re: Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby Exrave » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:17 am

it's not even a debate, really. mirror was debatable because it doesn't dq you, but it should've.

Hide BG has been established as a mod that disqualifies you already. It shouldn't be up for debate. If certain players choose to use it, it just means they aren't able to play* without the bg vids (which are PART of the game).

*by which I mean, they probably are able to, but for some reason don't.
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Re: Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby OmniQuark » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:41 am

I totally agree with JD that the argument "Best players use it so it must be ok" is a very bad reason for bypassing DQ, no debate there. I guess it depends on people though, but if I had a choice between making Mirror DQ or Hide Background, I would say that Mirror should DQ.

Left and Right don't DQ either, right? I mean this shows that the default settings might not always be right.

Anyway, I'm happy the bypass is simply to have a black background and not some way to mess with what's DQ and what's not. Next thing we know, people will be able to play Cmod without DQ and the result screen will say 1x, no bar :P
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Re: Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby Exrave » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:48 pm

OmniQuark wrote:Next thing we know, people will be able to play Cmod without DQ


I remember Rajjab did that rofl. He took out speedup gimmicks in Fer Sure (and See You Again?).
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Re: Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby Cloud » Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:19 pm

Lol to me this is funny cause he could've also put it like this:

HAI GUSY I FOUND A WAY TO HDIE THE BACKGRNDS WITHUT DQNG!!! ::

MAKE A BLACK BACKGROUND INSTEAD LOL!
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Re: Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby Zaku » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:45 am

Rich! wrote:Pretty much I may have come up with a way to allow a player who uses the Hide Background mod to play a Custom Simfile without using the mod itself and thus risk having DQ Scores.

The Trick

Step 1: Make a 640 X 480 image (I used MS Paint on Win7 myself)

Step 2: Fill the image with a solid color (I'm guessing most will use Black)

Step 3: Save it as a PNG format and name is Black

Step 4: Copy the image on to the simfile folder of your choice, After the copy, there should be your background and banner image if any, sm file, music file and this new PNG image file in the folder now.

Step 5: Under your Sm File, replace your #BGChanges with what's on the picture


Step 6: Install on to your machine, now you can play the custom song and it should look like this (background wise)

And you don't have to worry about the DQ anymore. Take note however this can take a long time if you are doing many custom songs so only do this if you REALLY can't stand the BG Videos for any reason and have the time to do this.


imo thats kinda long and not super useful unless you really want to play a specific file like that. But if you do it for every single file that is gonna take a while o_o, especially if you have a machine hacked with 1000+ songs (like the one we have, or like most hacked machines have)

Erm I dont know if you tried this but there's a line in the theme metrics that is :

# -random- always uses RandomMovies.
BackgroundMode=2


I'm sure that like CoinMode=0/1/2 (Free play, pay, event) there is a 0 and 1 value for BackgroundMode where 0 would probably be no background ?

i dunno, havent tested it on AC and can't test it on SMCVS since it doesnt play random movies.

there's also this line but thats just totally cheating x) :

Disqualification=1 (0 would be nothing DQs you)


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but hey at least the idea is there, its not like its something stupid either :p
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Re: Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby DAVE101 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:52 am

stepmania.ini or Static.ini

BGBrightness=0.00000

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Re: Bypassing Hide Background DQ on OpenITG or R23

Postby NRC.EmoDan » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:51 pm

DAVE101 wrote:stepmania.ini or Static.ini

BGBrightness=0.00000

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